please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.
ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.
things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.
Dolt and cap'n, thanks for this discussion. I'm not going to weigh in intellectually as I haven't got anything to offer, but I've been trying to listen to a lot of Robert M Price's analyses of who wrote what and when, including which myths came first, and who borrowed what from whom.
I'm now going to check out carrier's work as I've been looking for a book on the dissection of the scriptures. If you have any further recommendations (specially cap'n regarding the consensus view), I'm all ears...
How do you have a picture of my wife's legs?
I can't blame you, they're jolly nice.
Exactly the reason I'm still in. For her sake.
recently there was a thread where someone asked if there was a copy of crisis of conscience they could purchase.
raymond franz it seems had limited resources yet he was able to provide crisis of conscience in printed form to what?
thousands?
worst day in the last ten years, was the day i hit 0.00 with one and a half years of university to go.
nobody to turn to, nobody to ask for help.
i was 32 and as an ex jw had two family members in contact with me.
Words fail me.
Good work!
May you have hot sticky tarmac wherever you may travel.
i have posted questions on christian web sites.
those questions have always been polite and i have never used questionable language.
the questions weren't exactly in support of christians though.. what did i get for my efforts?.
Doltologist - welcome to the site, I reckon you're gonna be a hoot to have around!
I'm in the UK too, is skeptics in the pub just a brummie thing? I think I heard one of you guys on cognitive dissonance podcast a while back..
Jw talk is THE pro jw forum, but you won't stand a chance on there, it's so heavily moderated you'll be kicked off before you can say evolu......
They don't tolerate any questions or debates, it's just an "aren't we so good" fest over there. And I can fairly guarantee you that less than one percent of all witnesses will even know who Dawkins is never mind having read any of his writings. It's not allowed, if any of us (yes, I'm to all intents and porpoises an active, but non believing jw) got caught reading such material there'd be an inquisition. And nobody expects that!
Stick around bro, you'll no doubt get some discussions here anyway..
tomorrow's wt study, paragraph 4 says this - "the early bible students understood the expression rendered in the king james version "my brethren" to refer to those who would rule with christ as well as to all of mankind after they are restored to earthly perfection.".
rutherford decided in 1923 to change this teaching, and create an elite group of christians.
for 92 years the men running the wtbts have perpetuated & embellished this false teaching - especially so during the past three years - and hidden the bible truth about christ's brothers from millions of people fearful to question the org - created doctrine!.
Who's going to be answering tomorrow then? And what are you going to say?
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even if you don't regard yourself as a practicing jw, some may view you simply as inactive, a lost sheep, etc.. if you were baptized but not disfellowshipped or disassociated, you may still be a jw---right?
your thoughts please..
from commentary press: "in honor of raymond & cynthia franz, the present copyright owner of crisis of conscious and in search of christian freedom is committed to further distribution of these publications.
more details will be forthcoming.".
http://www.commentarypress.com/.
I've read the pdf, there's NO WAY I could've gotten away with reading and hiding a hard copy at the time. Now my feelings are out in the open I really want to buy COC to read and have around the house but can't afford the silly prices at Amazon.
Who owns copyright then?
the land of judea?
he then did signs in judea (3:22).
i think the greek is saying that this healing was jesus second sign, and he did this one after he had come from judea into galilee.
Thanks for posting terry, it's all a bit mental this higher criticism, if only they'd find these extra sources and add some definition to all the speculation...
i don't know what i am talking about... read this post at your peril.
back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among jehovah's witnesses.
those who have read raymond franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about dan sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'.
